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 Lisa Fonssagrieves-Penn, born Lisa Birgitta Bernstone, in Sweden 1911 has often been described as the worlds first supermodel, although there is some truth in this she was so much more than just a model, she was also a dancer, artist, photographer and sculptress as well as model and muse.  Her name might not trip so easily off the tongue as later more famous models but almost every image she appears in is iconic.  This was no accident, with her background as a dancer and artist she knew how to move and how to turn a fashion image into an art form.  Rather than just turning up for a shoot, she worked with the photographers helping to create the image and it's no wonder that some of the worlds greatest were queuing up to work with her.  For a career that is renowned for having a short shelf life, Lisa's modeling career lasted around twenty five years, she modestly described herself as "a good coat-hanger".
I have found a rather interesting interview by David Seidner from Bomb 1985...

 
Fernand Fonssagrieves 1930's
David Seidner How did you initially get from Stockholm to Paris?
Lisa Fonssagrives-Penn Originally I went to 
Berlin to study dance with Mary Wigman. She had a sort of comprehensive 
art school where we not only studied dance but studio art, art history, 
and everything pertaining to art in general. My parents were very 
supportive of the arts, in fact my childhood vacations were spent 
driving through Europe with them, visiting museums. My father painted 
and encouraged us a great deal, me and my sisters. My mother too was 
very creative. She made all our clothes and created such an atmosphere 
of magic and beauty that all throughout this enchanted childhood I 
wondered how I could possibly do anything better than what I was living 
and make something of myself. I painted and sculpted and danced as a 
child so when I heard about Mary Wigman’s school, it sounded so ideal 
that I wrote to her and she wrote back asking me to come. So my parents 
sent me. Then I returned to Stockholm and opened up a school of dance. 
There was a very well known choreographer in Sweden at that time called 
Astrid Malmborg. She invited me to participate in an international 
competition in Paris and we went and won some kind of honorary mention. I
 immediately fell in love with the city and decided to stay and study 
other forms of dance besides modern, so I enrolled in ballet classes 
with a Russian woman called Princess Egorova…a fantastic teacher. Mia 
Slavenska was in the class too; she danced so beautifully! What an 
inspiration. About that time I met my first husband, Fernand 
Fonssagrives, who was also a dancer, and we went together to people’s 
homes to give private lessons. One day we were coming home after a very 
long day, and in the elevator (we lived on the 10th floor), a man told 
me that he was a photographer and asked if I would like to model hats 
for him. I was terribly shy but flattered that he would want me to pose.
 I was so young and naive. Anyway, I did these pictures with this man 
called Willy Maywald, and my husband took them up to Vogue.
 They asked me to do a test with Horst and I arrived terrified. I had 
never seen a fashion magazine, I didn’t know what fashion was. I made 
all my own clothes and I remember the suit I was wearing, dark brown 
wool, and I arrived so frightened with my hair long and wild and 
completely unmanageable. No one knew what to do with my hair. But it was
 my hands that troubled me most; what to do with one’s own hands while 
posing. And even though Horst himself was so young and inexperienced, 
and made me feel so confident, I still had no idea of what to do with 
myself.

 
Fernand Fonssagrieves 1935 
 
DS How did you learn to move the way you did? Was it natural or were you imitating things you saw in other women?
LFP After that test with Horst I went 
straight to the Louvre and studied how differently dressed people did 
different things. Especially in evening clothes. The next day, Vogue
 asked me to do a sitting and we had the most exquisite gowns by Alix 
and Lelong. It must have been about 1936, or 7. I would imagine what 
kind of woman would wear the gown I was wearing and assume different 
characters. I would look at myself in the dressing room mirror before 
going on the set and instinctively try to solve the photographer’s 
problems. I would look at the cut of the dress and try different poses 
to see how it fell best;, how the light would enhance it, and basically 
try to create a line the way one starts a drawing. I would objectify 
myself and become more of a director than an actress. I became this girl
 and not Lisa Fonssagrives. So that when I saw the contacts I would 
think, There that girl stands correctly, there she looks awkward…The 
photographer of course would have a lot to do with how one moved. Huene 
and Hoot created a kind of reality within a reality. Often they 
constructed sets for the type of woman who would wear the clothes to be 
photographed. There was time to prepare and time to work, and the sense 
of collaboration and camaraderie was marvelous. It was also a kind of 
game, that exchange that takes place through the lens. That is why I 
hate the word “shooting.” It implies something so one-sided and 
impersonal. It was never a “shooting,” but a sitting or a seance. I was 
terribly serious about being responsible and even studied photography to
 learn what the problems might be. I would stand before the camera on a 
set and concentrate my energy until I could sense it radiate into the 
lens and feel the photographer had the picture. It was very hard work! 
There were no strobe lights in those days, but very hot spots, often 
live thousand watts on either side of you and the exposures were long. 
You could feel the sweat trickling down your face and the assistant 
would come over and hand you a towel. In fact I remember one time in New
 York in the ‘50s when I was modeling fur coats in the summer. And there
 were no air conditioned studios then. It was so hot that I just 
fainted. And they propped me right back up and I went straight back to 
work. Can you imagine what would happen today if a model fainted on a 
set?

 
Fernand Fonssagrieves Le Plage de Cabasson 1936
 
DS The approach was certainly much more 
serious then. Did you think of yourselves as making more than just a 
fashion photograph? Was the idea of making art ever present?
LFP It was never an issue. But making a 
beautiful picture is making art, isn’t it? Especially with Huene, one 
really had the impression of creating something. He was very 
considerate, George Huene. He would set tile lights up before one 
arrived on the set, using a stand-in. So one was led from the dressing 
room onto a very dark, dramatic set with a column or stairway or some 
other greek-inspired element, and there was silence. It was like some 
mystic ritual. He spoke very little and in a very low voice and there 
was only one assistant, who moved like a cat. No one was allowed on the 
set in those days, not even an editor.
 
Sailors Hat 1949
DS Wasn’t Fernand Fonssagrives a photographer?
LFP Yes he was. Just when I began modeling, 
he had a back accident and had to stop dancing. I gave him a Rolleiflex 
and he started to take pictures. Between the collections, there were 
endless vacations and we spent a lot of time traveling. Fernand 
photographed me constantly and sold the photographs to magazines all 
over Europe. In those days, a picture did not have to be assigned to be 
published. If it was beautiful the magazines would run it.
 Fernand Fonssagrieves 1949
 
DS How did you end up in New York?
 
LFP We had taken a trip to Sweden and were on
 our way to New York when war was declared, so we decided to stay in 
America. Eventually my marriage dissolved and I began taking photographs
 for Ladies’ Home Journal. I lived in one of those big old 
apartments on Central Park West and had a darkroom where I did all my 
developing and printing. In fact, when I met Irving [Penn], we were both
 doing experiments with ferrous cyanide to whiten the image and dissolve
 the outline of form. Eventually, after I remarried, my darkroom became a
 nursery, and all my prints had to be ordered. They were constantly late
 for the assignments so I finally gave it up.
 
DS And you continued modeling?
 
LFP Yes, mostly for American Vogue.
 This was in the early ‘50s and by the mid-’50s, I began designing 
clothes. At first it was just an occasional dress for one of my 
husband’s advertising campaigns, but then people began to special order 
evening gowns, and suddenly I found myself designing a line of at-home 
clothes for Lord and Taylor. Eventually I did sportswear for them too. 
This lasted a good six years. Eventually we had to move from Central 
Park West because they were tearing down the building, and since the 
dining room was my atelier, and I wasn’t allowed to have a business in 
our new apartment, I just stopped…wanted to do something else. I began 
spending more and more time in my sculpture studio in our house in Long 
Island, where previously, we had only spent weekends. I also enrolled in
 the Art Students League to hone my drawing skills. Finally we moved 
completely to Long Island, so I could spend more time in the studio 
without having to commute.
 
Fernand Fonssagrieves
DS When did you first return to Paris after the war?
 
LFP In 1950 to do the collections with my 
husband. We had the most beautiful daylight studio on the Rue de Sevres.
 We’ve been back to Paris almost every year since.
 
DS Weren’t you petrified when you hung off the Eiffel Tower for Blumenfeld?
 
LFP No, I was too young and too strong. I was
 a dancer and a skier and very athletic. But I was frightened on another
 sitting when I had to parachute from a very high exhibition tower.
 
DS What a contradiction in terms. You 
presented to the world such a sophisticated, almost decadent image of 
yourself, and you are in reality very wholesome.
 
LFP I know. Whenever I would come home after a vacation, rested, Vogue used to say to me: “We can’t use you for at least 10 days, you’re much too healthy looking.”
 Erwin Blumenfeld 1939
 
 
DS And did you work with Blumenfeld in New York too?
 
LFP Yes, in the ‘50s. He was marvelous. He 
made you feel so beautiful. He used to hold my face in his hands like 
some fragile flower, so gentle, to pose it in the right light. He lived 
and worked at the Gainsborough Studios at 222 Central Park South, where I
 had lived when I first arrived in New York. It was easy in those days 
to find apartments like that, and would you believe there was never any 
problem finding parking? In fact, you could pull your car right up in 
front of your door, and just leave it there overnight.
 Lisa's hands by Horst
Louise Dahl-Wolfe
 Lillian Bassman
 Toni Frissell
William Klein, Smoke and Veil, 1958
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Thank you all so much for your lovely heartfelt comments on my previous post, I was really touched.